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RE: The Final Tier List - Eakin - 4-11-16 12:18 AM
Me and Tom were fighting and during the game the express team didn't understand how to stop a out route that yellow did every play.
RE: The Final Tier List - Shanks - 4-11-16 12:43 AM
Damn Mid-Tier for both offense and defense? Shame.
RE: The Final Tier List - blood - 4-11-16 1:45 AM
(4-11-16 12:04 AM)Beaverboys Wrote:(4-10-16 10:21 PM)blood Wrote:(4-10-16 10:02 PM)HamdaN Wrote: this list is a fucking joke lmao
I want an honest to god no troll opinion on which part of this list you have a problem with. Please be specific on the player(s) you have a problem with.
Also if anyone has an issue with this list please explain why you have the issue and what specifically about the list you have an issue with. Since the "inner circle" made this list It would be interesting hearing the opinions of other players. Whether it be where a player is listed or if a player isn't on the list.
First of all, you forgot to put Chosen on the defensive list, and completely forgot Grogglez, veX, and dop (all played 1 game) as well as ParadoX (played 3 games). Intensity didn't play in any games, and Death was never even on a roster.
Jeffrey, Record, Walle, and Eakin are slightly too high offensively. Me, buttfumble, and Chosen are too low offensively. Eakin is ranked above me offensively despite having literally 0 catches for 0 yards in CSFL, and eventually getting cut.
Tom should be listed as a rusher, and should be at least mid-tier. As I said before, you put Rawr, who had 0 sacks all season, over me, when I tied scripter yellow for most sacks and got first-team LB. Defensively, Rawr should be mid-tier, Walle should be mid-low tier, Jeff should be high-tier, and Deadpool should be mid-high tier.
I'm sure I forgot a couple of things but those are the issues I have with it at a glance. I'm not sure if the players are listed in order within the tiers, but if they are I have many more issues with the list.
Chosen was a typo he is mid-low tier I must of missed him on accident.
1. Grogglez, Vex, Dop, and Paradox though playing matches in the csfl did not play enough outside of those specific matches to really get an idea on where they stand with other players.
2. Death plays a decent amount in the pug so he gets on the list.
3. I honestly don't know why I added intensity, someone mentioned him as I was making the list so I added him.
1. Jeffrey in pugs and in the csfl proved to be the best Wide receiver in the mod as of right now. This is also putting kc21 at QB and not at wr. This list isn't 'of all time' but based on the given stats and performance of right now he deserves high tier.
2. I personally believe all the other players you have an issue with are fine in their respective tier but I will say again that this isn't completely based on csfl stats. I'm not manning I don't live and breathe off the stat line. A good example is you and eakin. You weren't picked because of your offensive talent. Comparing you head to head with eakin I can say that eakin is a better wide receiver based on what I have seen between you 2 in the pug server.
- Rawr has proven to be a more effective rusher he also did not rush in the csfl and if he did it was maybe 2 games max.
- Jeff is a good defender but he has even stated him self he isn't a high tier defender.
- Deadpool showed weakness in his defense in the csfl.
There are probably a few players that could be adjusted but only slightly. I have gotten several opinions from multiple players and I agree maybe there can be some minor tweeks to the list but overall I feel as well as others it is a solid list. The list again was not made from CSFL stats or any specific stat line alone. I actually like to see how a player plays and evaluate the persons performance in different settings and circumstances to determine a more accurate evaluation.
Anything else?
(4-11-16 12:43 AM)Shanks Wrote: Damn Mid-Tier for both offense and defense? Shame.
I actually find that quite impressive considering how much you play
RE: The Final Tier List - Record - 4-11-16 2:42 AM
(4-11-16 12:04 AM)Beaverboys Wrote: First of all, you forgot to put Chosen on the defensive list, and completely forgot Grogglez, veX, and dop (all played 1 game) as well as ParadoX (played 3 games). Intensity didn't play in any games, and Death was never even on a roster.
Jeffrey, Record, Walle, and Eakin are slightly too high offensively. Me, buttfumble, and Chosen are too low offensively. Eakin is ranked above me offensively despite having literally 0 catches for 0 yards in CSFL, and eventually getting cut.
I'm sure I forgot a couple of things but those are the issues I have with it at a glance. I'm not sure if the players are listed in order within the tiers, but if they are I have many more issues with the list.
The list is not in order, just by tier.
This list was made for at least semi active players to read and use to improve and know where the mod thinks they stand. Its also not just for CSFL as you can clearly read, it states, for the Last CSFL and the months that followed. Walle has improved i think almost more than anyone has in the past few weeks and is where he should be. He bloomed late in the CSFL and has continued to put up numbers. Jeffrey was on a team that was considered to be the underdogs even though Express went 0-7. He was the best player on the team and continued to do work on the best defenders on him and is showing the mechanics and the potential to be an even better wr in the future. He's probably the #1 (just wr) at this point in time. As bad as eakin is and i hate his guts, he shows skill and can listen every once in a while when in the pug server. He is better than most of the people under him and i think thats where he deserves to be.
As for you three (You, chosen and buttfumble) your CSFL QB had a little influence alongside bloods insight on where you are. Buttfumble is a skilled wr and has been very inactive, maybe he could have been better maybe he was better but as of late he is high mid with the rest of us. Now lets get to why this post was really made, you. Your wr skills are lacking and need improvement, you dont listen and you're too easy to press. You need to fix somethings and you could be much better but thats just my opinion so why does it matter.
As for myself being rated too high, i personally feel thats where i belong and where the mod stands in high tiered players i think im there. If you feel differently thats fine with me but at least i know where i lack.
RE: The Final Tier List - Beaverboys - 4-11-16 3:14 AM
PUG stats since January 2016 (Lower is better for each stat)
Plays per 100 receiving yards
Me:91.79
Walle:102.11
Eakin:115.46
Plays per receiving TD
Me:74.23
Walle:93.40
Eakin:95.46
Plays per rating
Me:17.55
Eakin:27.94
Plays per sack
Me:88.01
Rawr:156.53
Walle was rated 2 entire tiers above me. Eakin was rated 1 tier above me. I have better WR stats than both of them. I'm willing to bet I have better stats than most of the people in mid-low tier as well.
You're objectively wrong on all accounts in your evaluation of me, offensively and defensively. I'll admit I'm no more than a serviceable WR, and not quite an elite pass rusher, but I was absolutely rated incorrectly on this list. I shattered yellow's pub receiving records in 5,000 less plays than him last summer, and only improved playing with Funtastik. Putting me in the same WR tier as Death and Intensity is beyond absurd and completely rids this list of any credibility when my stats are better than those who are rated 2 tiers above me.
RE: The Final Tier List - Grogglez - 4-11-16 5:10 AM
lol @blood
RE: The Final Tier List - Eakin - 4-11-16 6:10 AM
I troll all the time lol
RE: The Final Tier List - kc21 - 4-11-16 11:49 AM
Lol its so funny how everyone knows beaver has skill and can be good but is surprised why you're so low. You're a fucking troll. Literally two nights ago in a pug all you could do was run shitty drag routes that me and fun just laugh about it. Maybe you're a better rusher than rawr but you're not as good as rawr buttfumble or any of those players.
RE: The Final Tier List - Death - 4-11-16 1:45 PM
Im just glad to make it to the list.
RE: The Final Tier List - Shanks - 4-11-16 3:50 PM
You right blood you right. I was just playing. Thanks for the ranking.