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Perspectives from an Old School guy
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Champ
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This is a long post. I truly feel that what the message I'm trying to convey is important, so if you have any free time or want to procrastinate, or even waiting for that PUG to start, please give it a read.

Initially, this was a response to blood's post in my other forum topic: "Moneys dead, we all appreciate you adding another team to the tourny but I feel it should of been as another name in respect for the team. It does sadden me knowing that I will never get to face the original tyrant of the mod at their best but.. I guess thats a good thing for you ;P"

BELIEVE ME when I say I'm not irritated or annoyed at blood, I just happened to use that as a catalyst or platform to say a bit of what I've been meaning to say after playing for 2 weeks. Take it as the perspective of an old schooler who returned after six years of not playing. Also a LOT of you have been grilling me with questions on Steam about a lot of things, so I'll answer a lot here too.


I see where you're coming from, but I don't think Money is actually dead as you say it is. Maybe if you were referring to how the majority of our players don't play anymore, or haven't played since 08' 09', then I do agree; we all ran into various points in our lives that required more attention or priority. I personally retired because my parents at the time couldn't afford either high-speed internet or a better computer, and the lag was actually unbearable. Besides the team's little baby FaTaL, I think the youngest member we have as of now is 20. Basically, we all ran into critical junctures in our lives that began to force us to think of bigger picture necessities, such as what we're going to do to put the food on the table, what passion we'll attempt to pursue in hopes of it translating into a lifelong occupation, and chatting up that cute little boothang who's been eyeing you constantly in class for the past two weeks. Things that we THOUGHT dop was going through when we were in high school (he trolled us all into thinking he had a kid when he was like 16 or something, but thats another story for another time).

But with all that said, Money is far from dead.
Throughout the six or seven years I've been gone, I've grabbed a beer with a couple of the guys on my team, balled some niggas up in real life, constantly emailed and chatted em up, and tried my best to maintain a certain degree of contact with the members of the team that would be better characterized as a brotherhood. Ask any old school [$] that still plays: Gee, dop, iTouch, Hester, etc. They will all vouch for an ELITE, DIE-HARD, TIGHT-KNIT, HILARIOUS, and most importantly, FUN team that was fostered back in the day. The memories we had/have, constantly testing out Whookid's new additions, chilling in the server on late nights just talking about life and noncs related shit, and the ridiculous excitement when the [$] map was madeĊ we spent long and countless nights just jumping in that hot tub and staring at our personalized lockers; it was a thrill that I have to say you had to be there to experience. You guys might just see the locker room and see the same old shit: hot tub, random poster of woman, weird creepy model of the guy in the corner, the porno magazines on the bench hidden away in the back, but each and every one of those small intricacies have individual, purposeful and sentimental reasons for being there. It might sound very cheesy, and I admit it does, but I'm nothing but thankful for all these great times we've spent. These very memories are the very exact reason why I can hit up ANY [$] member and we'll pick up exactly where we last left off, either a couple weeks, months, or years ago. Chances are, if I begin talking to any [$] player, we inevitably go straight down into memory lane and the nostalgia pumps through our veins at a ridiculous level. That bond will forever be there.


A lot of people have been asking why I'm coming back to the tourney, or whether I'm playing or not, and honestly, I wasn't going to. There was no reason for me to. In fact, I had all the reason NOT to. I've had my share of fun, the game has changed ridiculously, I'm incredibly rusty, it was only a week away, my main QB Whookid is off doing boss things in the world, everything. But after a night of talking to Gee and dop, and hitting up all the old [$] members, I just want to play for old times sake. It isn't about doing our [$] name dirty; in fact, its the complete opposite. As long as I have one [$] player willing to play with me, I'm 200% and that stands as a testament to the [$] bond and name. The fact that some of these players, such as iTouch or Hester who haven't played csfb consistently in YEARS is willing to come out and play just for old time's sake is powerful. Knowing all the odds are against them, not a single one of them think in that way: that the [$] name is going to be tarnished in any way. We know what we did back in the day, and we're 100% secure and satisfied with it. FaTaL hit puberty and became an emo teenager, but even he gave it a shot. These are mah NIGGAS. I'd rather lose with these guys, rather than play in a toxic try hard team who doesn't really understand the essence of the game. And thats not saying we're going to lose. [$] always comes to play and win. Watch us dark horse shank you out of your asses.

All in all, big congrats if you got to this point in the post. It is a long post, but I just wanted to clarify all the questions you guys ask me on STEAM as a whole, and make a slight commentary on the current community.

If you guys played with me, you know how light-hearted and relaxed I am. Really, try thinking of when I was negative or toxic to a certain player. With all the hater comments of [$] being overrated and trash, or saying I suck, I just laugh it off because it doesn't really affect me at all. Keep it coming to me, I honestly don't mind, and it just gives me the opportunity to playfully banter back atchu. Because if you think about it, it just doesn't make sense in the grand scheme of things, because you weren't even around when I played daily and was in my prime, or when [$] was literally unstoppable. I know what I did, so do the people who played back when I did, and I'm secure about it. But not everyone is like me. The reason old school players might come off as bitter, mean, or nonexistent, is because all this negativity gives them no reason to come back and play. Think about it. You guys weren't even there when we played. You guys were not there during the dark times when even getting a server was tough, and we had to play on shitty ass different gravity Pigskin server. You guys weren't there in Whookid's basement where he poured TONS of allnighters just to get this mod up and running. You guys weren't there when I created [$] and even inceptioned that concept into this mod. All the bhop superstars now, you guys weren't there when mikeisdaf [$] was deemed as the first RB ever for his script less bhop skills back in 2007. You guys weren't there to know what a down ass nigga Jericho/colt was. You guys weren't there for the first ever scrim, which believe me, was a HUGE step in csafm history. The fact that someone like Devin Hester [$], who had the first ever pick six on the first play of the first scrim, can walk in the mod and go by unnoticed just serves to show how much you guys have forgotten or were not there for. Half of you guys, I notice from way back when, when you guys were just beginners or the everyday regular. If the community was as toxic as it is now, half of you guys would not have stuck with this mod. What kind of person are you, if when you are at your best, you step all over people when they are at their lowest? What benefits do you gain out of it? I'm not trying to put anyone down, but I'm just saying, take a step back and check yourself once in a while. Believe me, I'm a HUGE trash talker, but it is always playful banter and never legitimate insults. This unnecessary aggression and negativity discourages the old community from coming back and sharing interesting stories and perspectives, and cuts off a lot of people who this mod truly meant a lot to. They just want to come in and play without being endlessly criticized and insulted by people they don't even know. If someone is new, you should try to ensure that they stick to the mod and help it grow. Give them an opportunity to play and develop and fall in love with this mod just like we all have. You should want to share this gift. If there is anything you took away in this post, it is this paragraph.

There are vocal people in the world, and people who aren't that vocal. It doesn't mean that either of them have any less to say than the other.

Lets be more positive guys, and TEAM [$] LIVESSSSSSS.
3-31-14 10:20 AM
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