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**kc21** · 5-28-16 7:39 PM

me and grogglez already had our duel in csfl2 and 3 when i out carried him twice, I am LBJ, those 2 are ass without eachother, enough said.

Tom Brady · 5-28-16 7:41 PM

eakin i'll beat you by 40

**kc21** · 5-28-16 7:41 PM

Look what manning does without grogglez, lose, look what grogglez did for chrispy and tj without manning, lose. All i do is win zounderkites even at a position im new too, people who ive shit on talking shit to me is like North Korea actually trying to nuke US, makes 0 fucking sense.

Pretty sure im the only one abstained from any shit talk since ive legit just won at every facet of the game flr 3 years

**Peyton** · 5-28-16 8:06 PM

(5-28-16 7:41 PM)kc21 Wrote: Look what manning does without grogglez, lose, look what grogglez did for chrispy and tj without manning, lose. All i do is win zounderkites even at a position im new too, people who ive shit on talking shit to me is like North Korea actually trying to nuke US, makes 0 fucking sense.

Pretty sure im the only one abstained from any shit talk since ive legit just won at every facet of the game flr 3 years

To say I haven't won without Grogglez is simply false. I won CSFL2 without Grogglez. I also took Tj's sbA* team to the Championship without Grogglez.

To say that Grogglez cannot win without me is false. You're saying that Grogglez sucks just because you won as a QB when he has never played QB. You arguing that he can't win with Chrispy in CSFL2 would be the same as arguing that you couldn't win with WKB in CSFL2 or Tj in the tournaments that you played with sbA*. That doesn't show that you guys both can't win, but rather how those QBs couldn't win you guys.

I'm not sure why you think anyone is talking shit about you. To critique your QB skills in comparison to the other top QBs is not a malicious attack by any sense. Every year that Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees don't win the Superbowl does not mean that the winner of that Superbowl is better than Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees.

I think it's unanimous that you are the #1 overall player in the mod right now and have been for a while. The last time I challenged your skills as a receiver was early 2014 when I would challenge you "to take the top off" which you've done repeatedly. However, when you do it against me in a PUG and I defend myself because of the lack of talent around me, you view that as me talking shit to you. When you do the same against Funtastik, as you did the other day, you don't instigate any shit talk instead you acknowledge the fact that he had no help on defense as was the same case in the game that you guys labeled be King Kong.

Anyways, this thread is an objective look at players' talent. I'm simply compiling data that gives us a big sample size of what each player can do. I will also be compiling the data from years past once I obtain the logs from my old PC. By doing so we will be able to see if our perception of a player's skill is representative of how good that player actually is. If I'm able to implement the WAR formula then we will also be able to see how good players are relative to each other. For example, we will know how good I am with or without Grogglez and how good Grogglez is with or without me.

**kc21** · 5-28-16 8:53 PM

Was responding to noob eakin

These stats shoulda came earlier, probably woulda gave alot more incentive to try as hard as me and u do. As you can see from ur stats ur the only one who is slightly above even and then everyone else i am mack daddy ohl flow lbj jesus.

I know im #1 baby thats why ive been waiting for your player list for you to put me on top and see where u rank yourself and others.

Eakin · 5-28-16 10:00 PM

(5-28-16 7:41 PM)Tom Brady Wrote: eakin i'll beat you by 40

why cant you just let the game play out and not make the game end by mercy rule. i know they pissed at pey pey and dont want to pug. i just want to have a fun game vs you and kc joking as you guys obv beat me at qb. you dont need to just destroy me fam i just miss you tom thats it Big Grin

<3. i wish you would play more i love your deepballs they always on point.

**Grogglez** · 5-29-16 12:03 AM

(5-28-16 7:41 PM)kc21 Wrote: Look what manning does without grogglez, lose, look what grogglez did for chrispy and tj without manning, lose. All i do is win zounderkites even at a position im new too, people who ive shit on talking shit to me is like North Korea actually trying to nuke US, makes 0 fucking sense.

Pretty sure im the only one abstained from any shit talk since ive legit just won at every facet of the game flr 3 years

zzz.. csfl with chrispy - he didn't want to throw me the ball every play therefore we lost. csfl with tj - college internet, played 2 games. I would not consider either of these csfl's a "duel" in the slightest.

**kc21** · 5-29-16 7:27 AM

I won double throwing, lmao same old gb excuses smh

You guys lost csfl2 because you guys didn't play defense; especially you in the game vs tom where your side lost back to back jumpballs to lose.

Misanthrope · 5-29-16 9:15 AM

stats are wrong, I won against kc last week lol

**Peyton** · 5-29-16 9:32 AM

(5-29-16 9:15 AM)Misanthrope Wrote: stats are wrong, I won against kc last week lol

Can @kc21 confirm? I'll check logs myself when I get home.