Tom Brady - League Violation

[Peyton]

Name: Tom Brady
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:13994983
Steam Profile: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197988255695
Server: PUB and PUG
Infraction: League Violation
Ban Length: 30 days

- Failed to appear for his playoff match.
- Refused to play with his team because he was missing MilkMan. He did have enough of his team online to play the match, including yellow, who was waiting on Skype.
- Lied about the scheduling of the match to cover up for his inability to play with his 2nd string players.

See proof below:

Squad ♠H♠Champagnepapi♠A♠: manning set a time for the absolute worst day
Squad ♠H♠Champagnepapi♠A♠: cant be shocked when no one shows CLEARS THEIR SCHEDULE AND LIFE to play in mannings garb set time/day in a game thats hardly active anymore
ANTICIPATION: manning didnt set the time
ANTICIPATION: this was set
ANTICIPATION: due to jeff
ANTICIPATION: not manning
ANTICIPATION: we had all week
Squad ♠H♠Champagnepapi♠A♠: manning is the one who sent a text
Squad ♠H♠Champagnepapi♠A♠: without asking me
ANTICIPATION: this is the last day to play
ANTICIPATION: we knew that since thursday night
Squad ♠H♠Champagnepapi♠A♠: nah, people played games way past dead-line
Squad ♠H♠Champagnepapi♠A♠: its just this is mannings last chance at a playoff spot
Squad ♠H♠Champagnepapi♠A♠: so thats why the deadline really is a deadline now
ANTICIPATION: the first deadline was last sunday
ANTICIPATION: this is the second deadline
Squad ♠H♠Champagnepapi♠A♠: whatever, just a game, if it means that much to manning, let him take it
ANTICIPATION: hes gonna play
ANTICIPATION: with shitty team
ANTICIPATION: he doesnt care
ANTICIPATION: ...
Squad ♠H♠Champagnepapi♠A♠: doesn't matter
ANTICIPATION: we had all week we knew this was the last time to play
ANTICIPATION: jeff can only get on at 12
Squad ♠H♠Champagnepapi♠A♠: big deal
ANTICIPATION: ok
ANTICIPATION: well then dont bitch
ANTICIPATION: this is ur doing
ANTICIPATION: u kids
ANTICIPATION: have ur theories
ANTICIPATION: all the time
ANTICIPATION: if u truly
ANTICIPATION: didnt care about the game
ANTICIPATION: u would show up
ANTICIPATION: and play
ANTICIPATION: not be a pussy
ANTICIPATION: i play with subs

Sunday, September 14, 2014
{Gb'} Peyton | americanfootballmod.com: you guys r playing tmrw
{Gb'} Peyton | americanfootballmod.com: 12 est
Black $tar: so 11 cst?
{Gb'} Peyton | americanfootballmod.com: ya
Black $tar: ok sweet, thanks
{Gb'} Peyton | americanfootballmod.com: ya but if ur team fails to show
{Gb'} Peyton | americanfootballmod.com: or fun's
{Gb'} Peyton | americanfootballmod.com: then my team will play
{Gb'} Peyton | americanfootballmod.com: tom is hoping yellow comes on
{Gb'} Peyton | americanfootballmod.com: he hasnt been on in days
{Gb'} Peyton | americanfootballmod.com: whether he is on or not the game has to be played
Black $tar: i understand.
Black $tar: and we have to use our roster right?
{Gb'} Peyton | americanfootballmod.com: ya

And finally Tom asking Funtastik to not show up as well so that they can reschedule.

ANTICIPATION: u said u didnt wanna play
ANTICIPATION: period
TOM ESEA-I BRADY: yes because this shits retarded
TOM ESEA-I BRADY: but if we switched places, and your team was giving you activity problems and you lost care for the game
TOM ESEA-I BRADY: i would have delayed as much as possible
TOM ESEA-I BRADY: i wouldn't take the "commish high and mighty" approach, id take the friend approach

[Tom Brady]

i didn't read a single line of text from this except this part


And finally Tom asking Funtastik to not show up as well so that they can reschedule.

ANTICIPATION: u said u didnt wanna play
ANTICIPATION: period
TOM ESEA-I BRADY: yes because this shits retarded
TOM ESEA-I BRADY: but if we switched places, and your team was giving you activity problems and you lost care for the game
TOM ESEA-I BRADY: i would have delayed as much as possible
TOM ESEA-I BRADY: i wouldn't take the "commish high and mighty" approach, id take the friend approach



its extremely convenient that you don't mention this is AFTER the game that you lost and I messaged funt saying I'm happy he's in the big dance but if we switched places I would have lied (which I would have) to not let the worst team in the league play a single snap in the playoffs, and instead let the deserving team play.

If you decided to remove that part and frame it like I'm telling Funtastik 6 hours before the match to lie for me, then you really are taking this game much more seriously then I thought, I don't care enough to read the rest of the post and see what else you lied about, because I feel nerdy enough sitting here and writing what I already have, 25 year old game and somebody is taking my words out of context on a virtual football forum and banning me, ples kill me before this shit gets any gayer.


ask captains before you schedule a time yourself, and my ban looks much cooler then anyone elses ever has. /amx_end

[buttfumble]

my opinion for whatever its worth

Tom - you should have played with your subs if it meant "to not let the worst team in the league play a single snap in the playoffs." Peyton, TJ, and Funt all played with makeshift rosters/subs throughout season.

That being said - scheduled time should have been agreed upon by captain(Tom) and not by Peyton. I don't agree with the "deadline" argument as week 2 games were being played in week 4 during the regular season. Regardless, Tom should have been a more organized captain but the whole banning him for a month is completely unnecessary. If this mod wants to survive it needs quality QB's and Tommy Boy may never want to play again after this mess.

[Tj]

All of this is bullshit.teams from the first week delayed games to make sure there starters were on.I was forced to drop and trade players to play my game.Kc delayed our game and nothing happened to him.Before the deadline was up to play our game and i had enough to play i was on to play and kc said he didnt have enough,i get banned he doesnt.How does this work for me and tom but not for everyone else?How long did it take for smoked to play his games,wasnt he late as fuck every week?Quit picking and choosing who you punish and do the same for everyone who pulls the delay tactitcs so they have a better chance to win.Its sad and these csfl shit will never work because of people being in the drafts who cant be here to play or are added without even wanting to be.

[Peyton]

@Tom: I was not the one that was involved in that conversation therefore I could not have the time stamps. The conversation was sent to me for a reason and that reason being that you simply did not want to play your match. Stop arguing pointless things - bottom line is you asked Funtastik to conspire in breaking the league rules with you because you were too scared of playing with your backups.

It's bullshit how you let your whole team down and threw them under the bus because you wouldn't man up like Funtastik, Tj, kc, and I have done so this season. The draft is 7 rounds for a reason.

@buttfumble: Banning Tom is necessary. I put thought into all of my decisions. I understand that I jeopardize losing good and active players, but at the same time I'm setting a standard at what will not be tolerated. Regardless if players choose to leave, others will step up. This gives opportunities to players, like Natty, that are not cancerous to the organization and well being of this community.

@Tj: I can't administer punishment to those that are still playing. Your case, along with Tom's, occurred once your respective teams were eliminated from contention. I'm not going to get in the details of your ban. That has already been addressed.

[Tom Brady]

Your entire segment towards me is the definition of arguing stupid things, since your completely wrong in every way.

1. You weren't involved in the conversation, therefore have no grasp of the context, have no time-stamps to indicate WHEN this was being said, you don't know if that conversation happened week 1 or if it happened 6 days ago (happened when I was congratulating Funt on his win, directly after the match and told him if the places were switched, I'd lie in a heart beat to buy him an extra day or an extra week if it meant it would fit his and his teams schedule) it's like when there's a draft starting and you stall hard as fuck for your buddy to get in there and play while he's restarting -- SORRY NOT SORRY BABY.

2. Your talking to someone who played with backups every single match, and played every single match with who was online, I only got to pick and choose ONCE which was the very last game of the regular season when I put Messi` in over Champ Bailey, (which btw, had nothing to do with talent, I started him because we already clinched and Messi only got to play one league game which was at the very beginning of the season, so 5 game-weeks before our 69-17 win) the leagues over and I'm banned and Dallas still has no idea who their fourth was, we played a game of "who want's to be our 4th" every game, and that's masked by the fact Milkman was forced to play like a starter when he was drafted like a backup, Jeff played defense like 7 players put together, and yellow is faster then 7 Tom Bradys.



1. Yellow
2. Jeff
3. Stevie (asleep early, wakes up early, schedule doesn't work with 99.9 percent of league matches)
4. Milkman
5. Dr (asleep early, wakes up early, schedule doesn't work with 99.9 percent of league matches)
6. Messi
7. Jimbo
8. Champ FREE AGENT PICKUP (who I had to pick up in an emergency to play with, twice)

I must be the absolute worst cherry picker in the mod if I only played ONE game with my 3rd and 5th pick, and in that same game? I lost my 2nd rounder.

You sound clueless acting like I played with my best players, and I'm afraid to sit down on a chair and move my mouse back and forward and hold spacebar for 20 minutes, this isn't real life, nobodys thrown up on their keyboards from virtual football nerves.




I agree with Buttfumble 100%, seriously I don't have anything else to say, he nailed it.


And to touch on one last thing, there is no massive stream of new players coming in, there is no "stepping up" because again, this is counter-strike, you can play at a high level consistently and be active or you cant, there's not enough new traffic to lose active competitive players without it being detrimental to the population, The thing that made this community so great is that it's tight knit and small and competitve, everybody knows everybody, you butchered this & TJs situation, congratulations.

[Peyton]

You can ask Funtastik to back any of your claims on here, but I doubt he will because he kept me informed over TeamSpeak throughout the week about your actions. He understands that the games are meant to be played and he always does his end to get them done, which he promised me when he asked me to organize another season of CSFL.

Stevie and Braylon both messaged me several times complaining about your scheduling or lack their of. It's not my fault that you drafted both of these players with the intent to start them, but only to see them act as your backups. You said it yourself, that the "schedule doesn't work with 99.9 percent of league matches" for those two. Knowing that, you should have either released or traded these players to accommodate your team, but you chose to sit on it and let your whole team down.

Again, these are your actions, not mine. You're making excuses when you could have acted for the best interest of your team.

Funtastik played his playoff match with 1 backup and still won, while I played with 2 backups and competed in a game that went down to the last minute. Last year, I played with 2 backups in the playoffs and still won. I've played this whole season with backups and still competed. While, my record is not what I had hoped it to be, I still played my games, competed and performed well.

I'll leave this open for a bit while in case Funtastik argues on your behalf. If you choose to argue, understand that you are banned for choosing not to play with your team.

[Funtastik]

The only thing Tom is not guilty of is conspiring to delay the match for his benefit. In having said that, I feel Toms ban is certainly justified.

This match was suppose to be done last Sunday, Toms schedule did not allow for that to happen which was perfectly fine, the deadline was extended to this Sunday that just passed.

Throughout the week I have made many attempts to schedule the game but for one reason or another it could not get done. I was willing to play everyday leading up to this Sunday and I am sure my team was ready to go as well.

However, the outlaws schedule did not allow for us to play during the week which was perfectly fine. People have lives, school, work, etc. Starting Wednesday night I was able to grab a hold of Jeff, we were able to come to agreement that the match would have to be played at 12 est on either Friday, Saturday, or Sunday night. In knowing this, a date and time to play the match was still not met.

To be clear, Tom was out in a poor situation, though he played his hand irresponsibly. When I asked to play Saturday night it was refused and he expressed his desire to not even play the match. I let Manning know and he told me to ask him again tomorrow as it is the deadline. When I proceeded to ask about the match Tom again said he does not want to play and gave me good luck against Manning as I told him the previous days that Manning would not hesitate to replace him.

All in all, Tom flip flopped and wanted to play last second as the DQ already went through. Now, did Tom do anything wrong to the mod as a whole? My answer is yes as he bailed out on his team because of his unreluctancy to play and damaged the integrity of the mod.

TL DR : Tom deserves ban, length not needed 30 days IMO, sorry to the team of the Outlaws.

Now I gotta go back to not paying attention in class.

[Tom Brady]

way too serious, and way too sad, i'm not opening this thread anymore, my team was drafted to have fun and not have a toxic atmosphere which are two things you lost sight of a long time ago.

you lose.

[buttfumble]

I take back my comment.

It has come to my attention that Peyton didn't schedule the match and that Tom did.